Hot Yoga Pose Forums > Chapter: Dandayamana Janushirasana

Here we go: the standing balancing series! There are many, many moments, large and small, that make this pose soar! Ask your questions about this chapter and your pose here.

June 10, 2013 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT

I was looking at this chapter and wondering about the correct position of the flexed leg... degree wise anyway? So often I will pull my flexed foot up higher in effort to kind of disperse my weight so my standing leg will eventually lock. Also, I find that sometimes when I tell myself to lock my standing leg it becomes harder to lock. I think because subconciously I am focused on the fact that it's not locking... This is such a crucial part of this pose and I'm wondering when that nice locked leg with happen?!

June 28, 2013 | Registered CommenterAlexandriaS

I've also imagined my non-supporting leg to be at a square - it's 90 degrees from my hip, and my calf is parallel to my standing thigh, my foot is parallel to knee, the top of my bending leg is flat out perpendicular from my hip. The pull for me comes from the rounded back and sucked in muscles - and they support my locked standing leg, everything is pulled up.

My question is about kicking out. I can do it, but I feel a little twinge in my heel when I do...like my achilles tendon just won't stretch to give me that foot flat to the mirror. Is there a pose before this one where I can work on warming up and relaxing this tendon to give me a great forehead to knee?

June 28, 2013 | Registered CommenterKristinaS

This pose is one of the most difficult ones for me. I struggle with locking my standing leg and was delighted to read that I should not attempt to kick out until I can lock the standing leg for 60 seconds! I have a hard time keeping my hips even and am also guilty of a number of other common mistakes in this pose, but I think the main one is letting my ego spur to attempt kicking out when I not ready!

It was helpful to read that weight should not be shifted deliberately as part of the set up.

November 22, 2013 | Registered CommenterMallory Maier

We are always making rules for ourselves. When you say "this pose is hard for me" or "I have trouble locking my leg"it becomes the rule you live into. Knowing this it always best to make it the rule you'd like to live. So I'm getting better at this pose each time i do it" might be a rule you'd prefer and can believe,

I once saw as master teacher instruct a student to kick out with a bent knee (not Recommending this). The reason ? The student had been practicing for 12 months and still noticing the leg: time to break the habit of living with limitations.

All rules can be broken when they no longer serve . How will you decide that your hip is fine and your leg will lock?

pS shifting the weight into the "kicking hip@ once you so kick is lovely

November 23, 2013 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT

Rhonda, by shifting the weight into the kicking hip, is this also what helps keep the two hips level and the kicked leg straight without lifting upwards?

I really enjoy this pose - kicking out feels super satisfying, and while I can't always pull down forehead to knee, I do enjoy the challenge.

One thing - even when seeing my knee in the mirror, I never see a 'dimple' about my knee even when I'm activating my thigh muscle a lot. Is this dimple visible on everyone? I simply see more definition around my lower thigh muscle....

November 24, 2013 | Registered CommenterMelina

I also see myself in the mistake of kicking out in the first set, when holding the knee locked for the entire 60 seconds is definitely a challenge! Every day is different, sometimes the effort of the first part gives the energy to do even better in the second. Other times quite the opposite is true. Also the part about not getting the hands under the foot is helpful, that applies to me some days too

May 11, 2014 | Registered CommenterKimA

I know I say this for a lot of poses but I love this pose. I love the long stretched feeling that I get when I kick out. I find that when I pretend I have a string pulling me up from the tip of my head and I stretch my chest up and shoulders pulled down, it feels like I am lifting out of my standing hip, lengthening my standing leg and helping me to really pull up in the thigh and log my leg.

May 13, 2014 | Registered CommenterGabbyL

I always find myself much more wobbly on the one side than the other. Tonight in class, I focused on pushing the big toe onto the floor to help keep me balanced. I have only more recently started kicking out in the 2nd set - definitely not the first!

May 13, 2014 | Registered CommenterHeatherS

Nice lengthening imagery, Gabby. I like the feeling of lenghtening from flexed heel to hip and sinking into that hip helps me to get the biggest stretch in the kickout. And isnt it just damn fabulous to feel that "I know I say this about a lot of poses but this one is my favorite?"

Heather, I go even further and tell students to flatten the outer edge of the big toe into the mat - and sometimes the inner edge of the whole foot into the mat until it stops "flickering" off the mat. That has helped me to balance on the foot

I find on the most powerful moments when I do this pose when I feel that the standing leg is locked solid and I can kick and then I kick with lots of energy It feels like the pose opens almost like a brand new one. It feels like an opening lotus from the tight bulb bursts into a full blossomed flower. The feeling is great. I do like to be well warmed out by that time, otherwise, you feel your hamstrings when you straighten the kicking leg. The next powerful moment is when you suck your stomach in, round your back, and find your knee. It feels so nice to be that flexible. It always comes as a nice surprise :). Love it.

November 9, 2014 | Registered CommenterAlfia

CREATING Balance with Correct Stance

The things I’ve highlighted for committing to in my practice of Standing Head to Knee:

Thumbs can stay with fingers but do not have to be interlaced in the grip at the ball of the foot. Just do not put them on top of the foot. I had been “drawing the palms together” in order to cross the thumbs, which Gabrielle Raiz says is incorrect and potentially dangerous.

Minimal weight in the gripped hands. “The strength of the hands, arms and shoulders does not lift or hold up the leg.” Instead, it is solid hip flexor work and “simple hand support” (and of course, core strength). I should be able to take my hands away from my strongly flexed foot and nothing changes. Leaning the weight in the hands effectively makes you round over, slump forward with chest to thigh, and fall forward with weight in toes of standing leg. Bad form.

Keep the foot flexed. Commit and recommit. When kicking out, pull back on the ball of the strongly flexed foot, and “the hell resists the hands’ pull by pushing strongly towards the mirror.” Arms are solid and relaxed.

Spend 75% of the time in the in the final part of the pose. Don’t procrastinate!

Swoop down to meet your foot, don’t pick it up.

Don’t stiffen arms and shoulders, but keep them relaxed and strong as you use your clasped fingers to pull back against flexed foot.

Maintain even hips. I like Gabrielle’s advice – to press the heels of your palms to the top of your hips when shifting the weight into the standing leg and lifting the other, noticing the slumped hip and what it takes to get the hips back into alignment.

Your breast bone should be almost facing the front mirror in Part 2.

Lots to keep in mind~!~

November 10, 2014 | Registered CommenterGrace

Gabrielle talks about "Transitioning your visual focus from the mirror to your abdomen will challenge your balance and concentration" in Part 4 of this pose. I have found this to be true. As soon as i drop my forehead to knee im out of the pose before 3,2,1.... In recent classes i have tried to shift my gaze from the mirror to my ankle then leg then knee and this has helped to maintain my balance. She says to "move smoothly as you shift your focus" My forehead may not be to the knee but my gaze is in a different spot and im still standing on 3,2,1... is this the beginning of holding the forehead to knee without loss of balance?

November 11, 2014 | Registered CommenterTinaA

Yes, Tina, shifting anything slowly and deliberately, be it your gaze or your movements ( in which case you are mindful of your alignment as per teachers instructions) is an important aspect of asana. This is why exiting an asana and entering an asana are as powerful as being in the asana.

January 3, 2016 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT

Hi Grace - yes some of these tips are golden - my favorite being breastbone up parallel to the mirror even as the shoulders stay relaxed, which creates a glorious kind of push-pull of opposites that feels wonderful as it serves to lift and open the heart center rather than collapsing it.

However I am a big fan of keeping the thumbs webbed or at least touching on the ball of the foot and not at all concerned about dangers of bringing the palms together first: it leads naturally to the next step which is letting go of the hold on the foot and balancing forehead to knee with the arms out and palms facing each other.

Yes to foot flexed; yes to relaxed shoulders and arms; yes to the momentum swoop down and "net" the ball of the foot into the clasped hands (remember to keep stomach sucked in for that swoop and beyond)

However, I am not a fan of spending 75% of your time in the pose and only 25% in entry and exit; I prefer the "measure twice, but once" idea: mindfully setting up alignment with careful attention to teachers instructions prior to entering the pose is not only the key to accessing the multitude of benefits with no injury, but is also the key to something even more important: ENJOYING the asana. After all - why else do it?

January 3, 2016 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT

Alfia - nice awareness. However I notice in class when you kick out you lose balance and tend to fall out of the post backwards at this point. Might I suggest shifting the weight more forward and downward into hip of the kicking leg, to ground you.

January 3, 2016 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT

Lately I've really found new joy in this pose... I've really been focus on locking the thigh and not the knee. So I have not been kicking out but just enbracing my new understanding of the pose and enjoying it here at the first step

January 12, 2016 | Registered CommenterBecky

Good awareness, Becky - locking the THIGH makes the entire leg feel strong yet relaxed, "like a tree trunk, a lampost." Here's the givewaway: when you actually dont feel any strain, ache or sensation in your standing leg, then it is truly LOCKED and supportive for the kick-out phase.

January 12, 2016 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT

Then I maybe ready to try kicking out again. Before when I was more focused on locking the knee I could see feel a lot of pressure behind the knee, which was not the best feeling. Locking the thigh so much better!

January 14, 2016 | Registered CommenterBecky

That's perfect, Becky. Yes, many times the instruction to "lock the knee" can cause the student to push back on the knee which results in hyperextension or "bowing back" of the leg which does not feel good at all. What you are looking for is a "dimple" above the knee to show that the quad is engaged and the knee is set into place without being pushed or forced into what you may think ins a locked position. Once your standing leg feels both solid and light - that is, no ache or pain or wobbling - you are indeed ready to kick out. In fact, it is your imperative to do so - at this point, standing still will not take you forward in the pose and may in fact take you backwards, into a comfort zone where your benefits cease. Yoga - and life - is about expansion. Go forward into your next step with gusto - Dandayamana Janushirasana and life!

January 14, 2016 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT

My favorite thing I've learned about about this pose is to lift the thigh muscle off the knee...NOT LOCK THE KNEE! In dance we always teach "straighten the supporting leg" or "supporting leg locked"...immediately dancers lock their knee. Expressions like "lift your thigh muscle off your knee" or "engage your quad" or "lift your thigh muscle into your hip" are all helpful ways to encourage a strong supporting leg without damage or strain to the knee.

April 17, 2017 | Registered CommenterDani

So true, Dani, and this was an AHA moment for me as well. In the BIkram studio where I learned hot yoga the mantra was LOCK THE KNEE, LOCK THE KNEE, LOCK THE KNEE. Anatomically it is accurate - what they mean is that the kneecap will set into a natural aligned position - ie locked - but thrusting the knee into a lock wont do it and will in fact cause knee stress. Contracting the quads (and from our last anatomy session you see the 4 quad muscles) and engaging them encourages the natural knee lock (seen as the dimple above the knee) which makes your leg engage in the "light yoga" way - very stable and balanced with no undue pressure or effort

There are many parts of the anatomy to "lock" in this way as we are built for alignment....in hot yoga we learn them all! The result: its actually FUN to live in this body!

April 17, 2017 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT

The idea of locking the thigh has been much more useful to me as well. I have had many injuries to my left knee, and if I do not remind myself to lock and lift up from the thigh, the pain in my knee is unbearable. If I lock my knee, it almost feels like my knee is going to snap backwards, and when I come out of the pose standing on my left leg is painful. As I progress in this pose, I also find that locking the thigh helps to warm up my muscles to make me more stable and able to kick out. Locking and lifting my thigh frees up space to stretch my hamstring more.

I am glad that 75/25 is not a desired practice at River flow because I do find that taking a bit more time in the set up enables me to settle into the inner edge of my locked leg and square my hips, which ultimately makes me more stable in the pose.

After reading these chapters and listening to the coaching call, a light bulb went off for me. I am putting too much weight in my hands. I was using my hands to hold my leg, and it was actually encouraging me to not lock my thigh but rather my knee when I would wobble. By not giving myself this crutch of holding all of my weight in my hands, last class I focused on my locked thigh. I was able to get to part two much easier. I was pushing so much weight down into my hands that I strained to lift up and kick out.

After reading this section, I was left wondering if we should be kicking out in a 60 minute class since the only set is 60 seconds?

If the second set would be 30 seconds (typically reserved for kicking) should about 30 seconds of the pose in an express class be dedicated to kicking out?

Does anyone go right into the pose without balancing and locking the thigh and standing leg, or should everyone always wait until the 1/2 way mark?

April 18, 2017 | Registered CommenterBrittany Yard

Great awarenesses Brittany about the hands taking the weight. Notice how these awarenesses come slow and gently, step by step, unfolding at just the right time, when you are ready, like the asana itself and....many other things as well. There's no use barreling/ pushing/forcing through as ...not in asana, and not anywhere else.

There's no rule about when to kick out. I have seen students go straight into extended Dandayamana Janushirasana within the first 15 seconds of the first set. If the standing leg is locked, there's nothing wrong with that.

Personally for me, feeling the lightness in the leg is so enjoyable, I like to stay there and bask in it - I sing the Body Electric, to quote the famous song - - so I wait til the halfway point at least, in both sets. When to move into the next phase of this asana is a personal choice - as long as the locked leg is solid and ideally, light.

NO ONE should be kicking until the standing leg is locked solid! As a teacher it may be necessary for you to FIRMLY pull students back from the edge of that dangerous cliff.

April 18, 2017 | Registered CommenterRhonda Uretzky, E-RYT